We are all a part of the seduction community, and we all love to sleep with women. The seduction community isn't bad. However, it creates a mentality that can totally fuck you up with women. If you look at some of the guys who never found the seduction community, and guys who did, you'll see a pretty big difference in how they approach picking up women. Let me explain. I told you guys that once I got serious about the seduction community, after awhile, my lay rate actually dropped some for a bit (around the time I stopped hanging around Puerto Rico). For quite some time, I've been trying to find an answer as to the reason why, and I eventually found it. We all say "don't focus on the outcome", but it's kind of hypocritical. Why? Because we all have or follow these systems that focus on achieving an outcome.

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What traditional seduction material does, is fuck up the natural flow of things. You might have a girl that just wants to have a really serious conversation, and you're busy trying to run these odd routines. You might have a girl that's ready to fuck now, and you're busy trying to run some comfort bullshit. And you might have a girl that's really down and out and just needs a guy to show that he cares, and you're busy trying to be a funny guy. Like most of you, I basically started following that type of structure, and that's why my late rate dropped some after I got serious about the seduction community; the point A to point B mentality.

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This is going to be a tough pill to swallow: most of the women that you lose or have flake on you, happen because you're trying to force something that is unnatural for the given situation. How many of you have number closed out of nowhere when the interaction was going great? You basically forced the number close. How many of you have invited your friends into your set out of nowhere? You basically forced your friends into the conversation. And how many of you have forced any kind of seduction step just because you were told that you should do it? You did it because you were told to do it, and not necessarily because it seemed like the next logical thing to do.

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All of this basically breaks up the natural flow of things. You should not be doing anything unless it just feels like the natural thing to do. If you're vibing with a girl and you're thinking "You know what, things seem to really be clicking with this girl. It's getting late. Maybe I should see if she wants to leave with me.", then cool. That makes sense. But by no means should you force trying to get her home before it feels like the natural next step to take.* The same goes if you're trying to get a date. It should feel natural. If time is running out, then yeah, get her number before it's too late, but by no means should you ask for a phone number if you're having a great conversation and neither of you have anywhere to be. You basically miss out on a great chance to build rapport and solidify yourself in her mind.

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Looking at that, you can really understand why following any strict system is just bad for you when it comes to women, especially during night game when you're dealing with much longer interactions than day game. You just shouldn't force seduction systems on women. It's all about analyzing the situation and going with the natural flow based on how she is behaving and what the natural next step feels like. If the next step feels odd to you, then it probably isn't the natural move to make (assuming that you have enough experience to be past approach anxiety, anxiety over getting sexual, etc.).

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Looking at that, you can really understand why following any strict system is just bad for you when it comes to women, especially during night game when you're dealing with much longer interactions than day game. You just shouldn't force seduction systems on women. It's all about analyzing the situation and going with the natural flow based on how she is behaving and what the natural next step feels like. If the next step feels odd to you, then it probably isn't the natural move to make (assuming that you have enough experience to be past approach anxiety, anxiety over getting sexual, etc.).

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*Can you take a girl home before it feels natural? Yes, but that's based more on experience and not the next logical step. If I am getting heavy indicators of interest, and I know that a girl is really into me, then I might just try to hurry and take her home. Although it may not be the next natural step, my experience tells me that it can definitely work, but then again, I guess that still kind of makes it the next natural step to take in certain situations.